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Love when a shadowy figure approaches the most vulnerable member of the party and we all just stand there. Really makes our heroes look competent.
#and don't you dare hit me with a ''well it's symbolic of--" no I want my crack team acting like PROFESSIONALS#and STILL getting picked apart#I want there to be a guard back there#who either gets cut down or cast aside as well#it worked#but#like#no#wow#that episode was just so many of my āBlahā tropes rolled into one#zero tension until the very end#lots of drama skips#acting was wooden#well it'll make the TLJ fans happy I guess#except for the dynamic camera work in that movie#SORRY#getting it out of my system#so no trolls can claim credit#it was a Bad Episode#those happen#and this was one of them
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the whole "jason rules crime alley and none of the other bats are allowed there!!1!" thing is so funny like. tim LITERALLY lives in the theater where bruce's parents died,
#rimi talks#sorry. thought about tim doing that again. what is WRONG with him kfjshakjdshfkjd#WITHOUT EVEN TELLING BRUCE UNTIL AFTER HED ALREADY DONE IT TOO.#TIMOTHY. WHY.#this is the other thing abt why i just dont like seeing jtodd in fanwork#whenever he appears like 99% of the time its in a way that is directly contradictory to actual comics#the 1% of people who actually read the comics and write him in such a way? fine great awesome!!#however i still am filtering that bitch out because hes kind of a catch-all for the most annoying batfanon tropes.#because. yknow. theres no other tags to filter out bc they dont Fucking tag it#alas. oh well. anyways can we go back to going hey tim what is wrong with you#because for real i think he got off way too easy for this one.#forget identity reveals i want the core four sleepover where tim's apartment gets its lore reveal#give me cassie doing such a dramatic spit take that she gets ice cream on the ceiling. picks up tim like a weasel. and goes WHY???#and hes just like. idk seemed like the right thing to do :)#tim
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i went back and watched first ep of thk again this time without being psychologically flashbanged every 2 seconds (which was only semi-successful tbh) and my biggest take away out of everything was that bison really gets off on power.
you can see it clear as day in that very first scene with the guy that they're targeting. this is clearly someone who has money and power - he's picking men out of line up like they're nothing more than clothes on a rack. but the reality is that bison is the one who's really in charge. bison is the one who has all the control. bison literally has this big, powerful man's life in his hands, and he really, really likes that.
you can see it in the look on his face when he shoves the guys face into his chest - he's disgusted, clearly, but he's also smiling. he looks so deeply satisfied, and why would he in a situation like that if not for the fact that he knows he has all the power in the world in that moment and is almost a little turned on by it. it doesn't matter that the other guy thinks bison's some weak little guy to be bought and given commands. it doesn't matter he's sitting there all smug thinking he's in control. bison knows the truth. that's enough. it's probably why he can so easily play along - that knowledge. that power. because really, what does it matter how rich or powerful someone is now that bison has him in his clutches? and what is that if not complete and total power?
you can see this desire for power and control bleed into other dynamics too. i think it's why he's so 'difficult' with fadel. fadel clearly loves and cares about him, and his concern is well meaning, but he does treat bison like a child. and to a certain degree it's probably warranted (i mean look at what happened at the karaoke bar). but at the same time between him and the little bit we know so far about their mother, bison's completely smothered. and sheltered (the guy doesn't even know how to cook a burger. they literally run a diner). and i think that has less to do with bison being inherently untrustworthy or reckless, and more to do with the fact that he just doesn't want to do what he's told. and i imagine in turn that made his mum - and by extension fadel - tighten the reins on him.
because bison, at least so far, seems to have really no control or even any say over his own life. he just does what he's told, either his mother or by fadel. he has no other choice really - it seems he has nothing and no one else. he's effectively trapped (which i think will be the catalyst in his and kant's relationship, bc kant is also trapped in a situation he can't get out of, but i digress) so he's rallying against their control over him in whatever little ways he can - causing problems, being difficult, being purposefully obtuse. i think bison is someone who knows he doesn't have any real power, and so uses what he does have to his advantage. he plays dumb and weak and naive and sweet to manipulate people and situations so he can get what he wants for a change. that's his power. and it seems effective enough, and he probably likes the little things that it can get him, but i think what bison really likes is the fact that he can make people bend to his will. sure he has to work for it, but the fact that he can have people dancing to his tune while being completely unaware of what he's doing is what he really likes. i think that's where bison's true power lies. and i think that that power goes straight to his head.
which brings us to kant. kant, who - at least in my opinion - bison thought was just another guy with a big ego who just expected bison to lay down and take it. like idk i just got the impression that bison was not super impressed w kant at first. and bison does try briefly to wrestle kant for the dominance/power that kant obviously thought was his to take (like the tapping to see who was going to go to who, and getting in each others face to see who was going to break and kiss the other first) but soon enough bison just lets him have it bc ultimately it's not that important. they weren't supposed to ever see each other again. he was gonna get off either way. but even so bison gave as good as he's got, making sure kant knew he wasn't just gonna lie down and take it. and i think that at some point bison kinda realises hey this guy is actually listening. hey he's kinda malleable actually. hey he's kinda putting on a lil show for me, taking his shirt off nice and slow. hey this is a lot more fun than i thought it would be. but at the end of the day he doesn't get his shit rocked by kant the way kant clearly gets his shit rocked by bison. bison literally put that man to sleep. kant's lying on his sofa all but twirling his hair afterwards. in comparison bison doesn't even seem particularly bothered about the whole thing until kant shows up at the diner.
but anyway my point is we pretty much know bison's desire for power is going play out in his dynamic with kant bc of the whole bdsm thing. imo this is going to be even more important if it does turn out that he knows/suspects kant's motives - which, after a second watch, i am a lot more likely to believe. it was just so obvious. of all the things bison could've been doing right then, he just so happened to be cleaning the windows? with a big mirror right next to him? yeah ok sure. but don't expect me to act surprised if we find out down the line that bison was behind the scenes puppeteering this whole thing with kant - and with his family too.
because really the question is if he suspects kant's intentions - which he clearly did, no matter how briefly - why would he not tell fadel? why would he not seek help? and i think the answer to that lies - again - in the fact that bison wants power. any thread of it he can grab onto he does with both hands, whether that be that killing or domming or pissing people (fadel) off. playing games with people's minds and lives in that way - even those of the people closest to him, even his own - really doesn't seem like that much of a stretch judging by his behaviour so far. i think he'd probably be rubbing his hands together like an evil little fly at the thought of everyone thinking he was dumb or naive or a liability when the whole time he's the one pulling all the strings. he's the one who has everyone's lives in his hands. he's the one keeping all of their asses out of prison while at the same time he's got the guy who's supposed to be his downfall tied up in knots (both literally and metaphorically)
and even if that isn't the case and bison really does have no clue what kant's up to, i still think he's loving the fact that kant is so desperate and eager to win him over. bc ulterior motives or not kant really was sooooo dickmatised by bison. even before chris got on his ass he was telling his bestie abt it like 'i didn't even get his name š„ŗļø it's like i slept w a ghost š„ŗļø he only exists in my memory š„ŗļø' like he was down horrendous for bison the moment he got him in that hotel room, and bison KNOWS it. he knows the power he holds over kant, and he loves that shit. he loves that kant ate that shitty burger just to stay on his good side and he loves that kant is so doggedly persistent in trying to be his boyfriend and he loves that when his big brother tried to scare him off kant didn't run or give up but instead asked him 'well how can i get him off our backs?'
and sure we know why. but does it really matter? bison just loves the fact that he can tease kant and not give him what he wants and still kant will just grin and continue to chase him, drooling like a cartoon dog who's just caught scent of a freshly cooked steak. it doesn't really matter why: bison loves power and he loves how eager kant is to give it to him. that's why it's really not that shocking their relationship veers into bdsm territory. kant already seems more than willing to give bison whatever he wants, and what bison really wants is power (and freedom, but we haven't really seen the depth of that particular want just yet). of course kant's going to give him that power, no matter what that looks like.
(but while we're on the topic, i'm really interested to see the dynamics kant and bison adopt the next time they have sex. we know they venture into bdsm territory eventually, but if bison introduces that into their sexual relationship right away (excluding their first time obv) i'm gonna be really side eyeing that little guy bc it's like oh? why are so desperate to be in charge? is it bc you know that guy thinks he's playing you and you wanna see how far he'll go to get what he wants? is it bc the idea of you having this man - this man who thinks he's playing you for a fool - blindfolded and tied to your headboard makes you feel drunk with power? is it bc the idea of hurting this man who's trying to hurt you and him wholeheartedly LETTING you gets you off like nothing else? bc if that really is the case we're reaching unprecedented levels of horny i fear)
anyway this post was just supposed to be a little thing about bison getting off on power i didn't meant for it to turn into a character study/ted talk on his relationship dynamics but here we are lmfao anyway i love bison already i wanna dissect him in a lab <3
#the heart killers#kantbison#thk meta#EDIT: please no novel spoilers!! thank u <3#believe it or not i acc have more to say lmao#bc you can easily watch this show at a surface level and still enjoy it#and tbh i thought that's what we were gonna get (which i was fine with for the record!)#but i actually think there's gonna be quite a lot of depth to these characters if you pick them apart a bit#especially bison and fadel. so that's great news for tumblr user lauren sunsetsover#anyways idk if this even makes sense to anyone else but it makes sense to me so we move āļøš
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when i say they'd act like this in public too...
#river dipping#matthias evanoff#theodore doe#a burning house to live in#echthroi#ts4#ts4 video#minus the kissing! theo would allow neck kisses but that's it. spins them around. my emotional support ocs..................#currently recording some animations because i want to update the gif that's on my page theme#i might just redo the old gif actually. but i'm testing a bunch of other animations out in the meantime#i spent forever working on updating their skinblends yesterday and troubleshooting a lot of issues i'd just been ignoring w my game#i think i fixed most of them? but i still have weird black dots that show up along the horizon line of my screen sometimes. shrugs.#found a really funny glitch tho which is that when i have the outdated cas columns mod in matthiasās dick doesnāt work lmfaooo#i use a new model thatās still in a testing phase and somehow cas columns screws with it and matthias can't get hard#the erectile dysfunction cas columns glitch <3#also been decorating theo's apartment a bit more. i have so much build cc and YET i'm struggling to find clutter it's agony#his apartment is meant to be a bit messy and full of old furniture and random things he's just picked up over the years#and dead flowers everywhere but alas... there's no cc for that so i've just been putting live plants down instead </3#also this couch isn't meant to be in his apartment lol it's just that this animation only works with this couch so. too cute to pass up.#anyway#sharing this and then getting back to it
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i canāt sleep rn so i went to check on smth thatās been haunting me since i rewatched the first las nevadas finale again
so when punz first confronts purpled in his cave, they bring up the fact that quackity had been torturing dream, to which purpled said was an obvious lie, and that he didnāt expect punz to have been stupid enough to believe something like that. the exact dialogue (with some bits in between) is:
punz: did you know that quackity tortured dream for six. months. six WHOLE months, purpled.
purpled: [ā¦] and the prison thing is bullshit. you know that they donāt allow ANYONE in there EVER. like, you know this. cāmon, punz, youāre SMARTER than that.
and i found that strange, because i couldāve sworn purpled knew about quackityās actions. i knew he was gunning for the revival book, obviously, but maybe iād gotten confused. maybe the in-universe explanation was that heād heard quackity was after the book from slime without the prison ever having been brought up or something
so i went back to the betrayal, and sure enough, purpled brings up the prison visits when confronting quackity. itās the first thing he confronts him about actually. and yes, admittedly, thereās no confirmation to purpled knowing about the torture necessarily. he knows as much as slime did, whatever that may have been. however, itās made clear he does know that quackity had constant visits with dream
i think the ccs likely just forgot, however the in-universe implications are FASCINATING to me because it just goes to show how much of a conniving bitch cpurpled is. he knows quackity was allowed into the prison, and if he didnāt know about the torture, heās pieced it together thanks to punzās speech, but he still denies it. he wants to keep what he knows close to his chest and he wants to belittle punz as much as possible. itās borderline gaslighting, honestly - āno, punz, dream had to be lying to you, no one gets into the prison. cāmon, youāre a smart guy, donāt tell me youāve fallen for such a stupid story. youāre better than that.ā and i love it so so much. purpled already spends that entire interaction insulting punz outright and asserting his own superiority so this added layer of boldly lying to their face is just the cherry on top š
#icarus speaks#midnight analysis#<- kinda#i also think itās super interesting that purpled admits to thinking punz is smart#bc like. heās not saying that to appeal to them#he likely knows the truth. he knows punz isnāt lying#and purp gains nothing from just insulting them to their face#i donāt think cmercenary were like. brothers in any way. i donāt even think they were necessairly close#however there is SOME history to them which is interesting 2 me. bc purp wouldnāt just say that without proof#i always see them as having like. mutual respect as mercenaries#maybe having worked together a few times. less than a handful#but not really close yknow#anyways. cpurp gaslight gatekeep girlboss continues to be real#i love still finding little tidbits about her to be able to pick apart#they get worse every time i rewatch a vod itās great š«¶
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quiet is right handed and always holds the blade in his right hand as a result. he is tied to the narrative that the narrator constructed through the blade and no matter what happens in any runthrough the knife will always end up in his hand at least once no matter what he does or what he truly wants
the princess is always chained by her right hand. no matter what, she is always bound to the cabin and the narrative that the narrator constructs. tsm is represented through countless arms and yet the princes is always placed in a basement with her right hand shackled
both quiet and the princess are trapped in the construct, parallel to one another. the knife is to the long quiet as the chain is to the shifting mound
in the prisoner chapter, if quiet becomes chained then he must lose the knife. there is no purpose to overlapping ones shackles, he just trades one for another
anytime that the princes recieves the knife, she becomes free of her chain. there is no purpose to overlapping ones shackles, she just trades one for another
the knife and shackles are equivalent, and both must be shed in some way for the shifting mound and the long quiet, or the princess and quiet/hero
at the heart of the shifting mound, the princess will always be free. the shifting mound is free to choose anything she wants. shes waiting for you to choose. the apotheosis establishes that she could destroy the construct if she so chose, but if the long quiet doesnt break free with her, destroying the construct will destroy him, too. she is free of her shackle but she has a choice between leaving with the long quiet or killing him- mirroring that the long quiet has a choice between leaving with the shifting mound or killing her. only that the shifting mound made her choice, and that is that no matter what happens, she will not destroy the long quiet
at the heart of the shifting mound, quiet has the choice to take the knife and give into the narrators script- to abide by it or return to its beginning and reread the story all over again- or to abandon his own shackles and free himself from the story the narrator wove
effectively, the chain and the blade must be abadoned in some way for the two to be free. with or without reaching the heart of the shifting mound, neither can be free until the remnants of the construct are abandoned, until their unique tether to the construct is left behind
and if the two are a palindrome, then the letter in the center is the cabin- a structure that exists for both of them and is a construction of the narrator that they both influence differently but in equal amounts. they both have been built around it and feom it, very literally, and the chain and blade are both offshoots of it that the narrator uses to control them
#slay the princess#is this anything#maybe im wrong abt tsm being able to leave on her own but if one of her vessels was able to destroy part of the construct#its safe to say that tsm could too. she just choses not to#she loves him#the construct is a glass enclosure but the very walls of such have been woven over with the long quiet#leaving must involve an undoing pf those threads#but there is a difference between gingerly untying and tearing threads apart#as he is before embracing godhood those threads are firmly in place and cannot be unravelled safely unless he is able to do so#anyway.#i mainly use the name quiet for tlq bc its the first one i got and bc i dont want it to get confused#if im talking abt tlq or the voice of the hero#but obviously the two names are interchangeable for tlqs more mortal form#just as the princess is the name more closely attributes to tsms more mortal form#and isnt it just poetic that tlq can vary by name so where the princess remains consistent?#except for the stranger ending but thats an outlier on MANY fronts. it makes sense that neither get a name in that ending#that said i do wanna double check that she still picks the name princess when shes the harsh ver#cus iirc she still picks it but its been a minute and i cant find footage of it
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one of the fun things to do when writing Duke pov is that he lies to himself, and sometimes that makes him a huge fucking hypocrite. Duke will tell it like it is to every single person around him and then tell himself the sky is green. He is honest and truthful except in his own head lmao
Dude will 100% tell a teammate to take a rest take a break their over working themselves and then just take up their slack like he wasn't already holding the earth, the moon, and also maybe pluto on his shoulders
#batfam#duke thomas#bread talk#yall are more than free to disagree with me this is just my reading#dude will overwork himself cause who else is going to do it#and that is something we talk a lot about in duke fan circles i know but i love it so much#also i think for some parts duke Knows that he's lying to himself#he's extremely self perceptive and he has his own personality picked apart in boxes However he is still going to do it#someone get this kid some fucking sleep PLEASE
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i feel like im not making any sense but does anyone else feel like there are stories that let u run with them and ones that spell everything out for you
#im reading that post that says artists are directors of audience reaction and not its dictator:#'you cannot guarantee that everyone viewing your work will react as you are trying t make them react. a good artist knows that this is what#allows work to breath. by definition you cannot have art where the viewer brings nothing to the table ... this is why you have to let go of#the urge to plainly state in text exactly how you think the work should be interpreted ... its better to be misinterpreted sometimes than#to talk down to your audience. you wont even gain any control that way; people will still develop their opinions no matter what you do#im thinking abt this again cuz i was thinking maybe the thing that lets adventure time work so well the way it does is cuz it doesnt#take itself too seriously that it gives the audience enough room to fuck with subtext and then fuck with them back yknow. i think it was#mentioned somewhere that they werent even planning to run with the postapocalyptic elements that are hinted in the show but changed their#mind after the one off with the frozen businessmen and dominoed into marcy and simons backstory. on the other side there are stories that#explain too much to let the story speak for itself and i think it ends up having to do more with the crew trying to lead ppl in a certain#direction than expand on what they have and i see a lot of this with miraculous. like when interviews and tweets are used as word of god in#arguments and it becomes a little stifling to play around with it knowing the creator can just interject. u can say its the crews effort to#engage with its audience but it feels more like micromanaging. and none of this is to say there ISNT room for stories that spell things out#theyre just suited for different things. if sesame street tried abstract approaches to themes and nuance itd be counterproductive#a lot of things fly over my head so i need help picking things apart to get it- but it doesnt have to be from the story itself. ive picked#picked up or built on my own interpretations listening to other ppl share their thoughts which creates conversation around the same thing#sometimes stories will spell things out for you without being so obvious abt it that it feels like its woven into the text. my fav example#for this might be ATLA using younger characters as its main cast but instead of feeling like its dumbed down for kids to understand why war#is bad its framed from a childs point of view so younger audiences can pick up on it by relating to the characters. maybe an 8 year old#wont get how geopolitics works but at least they get 'hey the world is a little more complicated than everyone vs. fire nation'. same for#steven universe bc its like theyre trying to describe and put feelings into words that kids might not have so they have smth to start with#especially with the metaphors around relationships bc even if it looks unfamiliar as a kid now maybe the hope is for it to be smth you can#look back to. thats why it feels like these shows grew up with me.. instead of saving difficult topics for 'when im ready for it'#as if its preparing me for high school it gave me smth to turn in my hands and revisit again and again as i grow. stories that never#treated u as dumb all along. just someone who could learn and come back to it as many times as u need to. i loved SU for the longest time#but i felt guilty for enjoying it hearing the way ppl bash it. bc i was a kid and thought other ppl understood it better than me and made#feel bad for leaning into the message of paying forward kindness and not questioning why steven didnt punish the diamonds or hold them#accountable. but im rewatching it now and going oh. i still love this show and what it was trying to teach me#yapping#diary
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Racism and misogynoir are so apparent in fandom, especially when it comes to shipping because why is it when a white male, sometimes female but I see it more with the former, character is on screen with a love interest, particularly woc, especially if they're black, and even with all the emotional scenes or just moments where they look at one another in ways different from the rest, it's met with "No, they aren't dating/the show is not going to put them together" but let the other love interest be white as well and suddenly it all makes sense? Heck, the examples I mentioned above don't even have to exist between the latter for some to STILL go and believe this rhetoric (eg. some Jace and Helaena shippers because, even if these two only interacted with a dance but yet we see Baela console Jace, after he seeks her out, apparently it's to far fetched to believe that Jacela could be a thing?!)
Sometimes it could be a headcanon that, largely, would make sense (and oftentimes was birth due to lack of respect that the poc characters could have been given by the writers *cough* TVD *cough*), and yet you'd still have people dismissing it left and right and spewing hate. At a HEADCANON! And I'm not saying that just because the other person in the ship is poc that you have to ship them, I'm not, but it's very apparent to many poc fans in fandom that unless the characters are swapping spit and doing the nasty, the possibility of them being viewed in any romantic lens feels too much of stretch even though their white counterparts don't have to jump through the same loops.
#fandom racism#and even if the characters are already together in some way you still have some in the fandom picking a part every little thing#and don't let it be a love triangle either bc even tho the main consensus is supposed to be rooting for one side#if the other happens to be poc you can BET that their will be racial undertones from the fandom used as ājustificationā#(mark/amber/eve even tho mark is half korean but even with that some fans still viewed him as white and used that even more to hate on amber#and use a lot of misogynior) i remember those dark days in that fandom#from the early days until the ends of the westallen to jacela its so apparent especially when the love interest is black#and its not only jace/helaena shipprs that do this but cregan/sara shippers as well#and this is coming from someone who doesn't even mind jacelaena (prefers jace/hel/baela tho)#dont even get me started on the star wars fandom & how the idea of finn and rey was too out there l#and how much racism finn & john boyega had to deal with as a result#and i just know the same will happen with percy & annabeth when rachel is added (as someone who ships all three of them too)#like you can ship whomever you want but at the same time don't ignore/be apart of this racist and hateful rhetoric#jacela#sydcarmy#percabeth#westallen#bc its the way that this can be applied to SO MANY fandoms and ships that it's exhausting#finnrey#bamon#klonnie#kennett#tvd#pjo#star wars#hotd#the flash#for queer stories too bc ill never forget how some acted about dare me even tho the afro latina character was literally being groomed!#so many examples to many to name š#stefonnie
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Iām not sure why, but I was thinking of this scene:
(I guess I donāt really have to have a reason)
and it occurred to me that what weāre looking at is
a white guy
being shot walking in slow motion
with a rap song playing in the background
and not only can we take it seriously, but heās looking hot/sexy while doing it??? That takes an obscene amount of swagger to pull off.
But even as hot as Austin Butler is, and the amount of swagger he manages to put out - this scene wouldnāt have been nearly as effective if say, they opened the film with it.
WE HAD TO SEE THAT BOY WIGGLE FIRST.
#Baz was a genius is what Iām saying#he knew he had to hypnotize us with the pelvis to get things rolling#because then for the rest of the movie weād be like āšµāš«šµāš« okay š« š« š« š« ā#thereās probably more we can add to this discussion#but these were my quick thoughts#Iād also argue that Baz pulled off the same thing with our feelings of sympathy with his choice for the very first scene of Elvis#Iām still obsessed and picking this movie apart like crazy#elvis 2022#austin butler#elvis presley
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daniel is someone whos lived a full life, is very experienced, and already had some fairly extensive knowledge of vampire life and society before being turned. plus he's got a naturally sharp mind, a talent for relentlessly digging under people's skin to an uncomfortable degree, and the ability to switch off his moral compass and sense of self-preservation to get what he wants.
so then you add to that cocktail pure, undiluted ancient blood from a half-millennia old vampire, and you've created probably one of the most intimidating fledglings possible. and i think he's gonna be so annoying about it
#hes got the ability to read minds now but i bet he barely even uses it#he still loves picking people and things apart and finding out the truth the old fashioned way#but he might peek in there just to find something to throw them off balance#can you call him a vampire nepo baby if he was already That Bitch before getting armand's exclusive juice#iwtv
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i like to think, as a hc or a theory (because itās definitely possible), that charles has had a few kisses throughout his high school years, sure, but past that heās undeniably a virginā well, kind of undeniably, because I think heād deny it if found out by trying to use technicalities (āI mean that one time there was friction involvedāā), but to any reasonable person, and by occult standards (see: edwin being a virgin sacrifice), heās a virgin.
and i think this because it seems like him to fib about his level of experience (like he did when agreeing heād sleep with crystal, matching her level of casualness about it) when in the presence of people who do, actually, have experience, in the hopes he doesnāt come off as lame or childish. given what we know about his āfriendsā when he was alive, they seem like the type to have teased or bullied boysā especially in their own circleā who havenāt gotten laid, or at the very least wouldāve thought less of someone for it. and given what we know about charles, i donāt think heād be nearly as sleazy and inconsiderate as his group when it comes to landing girls with the primary intention of adding to his body count. and considering heās only supposed to be 16? and has never mentioned any significant relationships pre-death? it just seems unlikely.
all that to sayā I can see him maintaining that facade of experience and confidence literally right up until the moment it matters, and in the heat of the moment getting nervous and embarrassed because āuhhh. so I may have been exaggerating some things.ā though heās not totally clueless either, I think itād take a bit of a soft heart to heart moment for him to be reassured enough that he wonāt fuck up and hurt his partner to go any further.
anyway not sure what the relevance of this is, but itās something.
#rambling#charles#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#that means almost definitely crystal is the only one whoās not a virgin. I donāt think I need to explain why#though that wouldnāt make intimacy particularly easier for her I donāt think. considering most of her experiences have probably been with#her Literal Demon Abusive Stalker Boyfriend#but I digress#trying not to put too much weight on ages when it comes to these kinds of headcanons/theories because. I mean. theyāre not treated like#16 year olds by the plot nor do they look like 16 year olds at all and it really seems like theyāre just sorta#pushing that fact off to the side and pretending itās not there which frankly is understandable (but I do think since they already aged up#the characters from the comic they shouldāve just went a couple years higher and everything would make more senseā just make them all 18#instead then crystal and niko renting rooms on their own would be feasible and edwin could still have been a student at the boarding school#when he died; just wouldāve been in his last year instead of whatever he was supposed to be canonically)#buuuut that being said I think that as a teenager in general itās far more common than not to be a virgin simply due to the fact that#you literally have not had much time to get that experience yet. among other reasons#so. incredibly normal. but charlesā friends were the type to pick someone apart for anything less than masculine#including proving oneās masculinity via getting a woman under you#sad. like I said though itās not like he has no game or anything; he clearly had some experience in making out and whatever based on#the scene with crystal. plus he was confident enough in his abilities to take initiative. but beyond that. yeah#I think this is the more interesting way to go too when it comes to this topic. in addition to being in character
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People acting surprised when a morally grey character is actually morally grey š²
THIS ā¦.. i feel like a LOT of people consume media under the assumption that morally gray characters are characters who always perfectly tiptoe the line between black and white, and notā¦ā¦ characters who do horrible horrible things but still treat one single person with all the care in the world. or characters who are on the āgoodā side of the story and do good things while also being fully willing to cross any line theyāre told to cross. and etc. morally gray characters are complex and can be anywhere on the morality spectrum except right at the very end of either side. theyāre not a perfect shade of gray, they just arenāt completely black or completely white. sighā¦ā¦.
#sorry anon i am very sleepy and very frustrated#:ā)#i wish people were willing to dissect fictional characters more deeply#because thatās where all the fun lies!!!!!!!#jjk in particular is full of . Nothing but morally gray characters#and that makes it sm fun to pick them apart!!!#but there are still people who refuse to analyze characters they view as āunforgivableā like meimei or naoya#or refuse to acknowledge that their āperfect cinnamon rollsā (yuuta & yuji etc).. are more than capable of doing Bad Things#you know?#i just think itās a waste of fun!!!!!#sorry iām getting bitter again š in the tags šš#thank you for bearing with me anonā¦ā¦.#morally corrupt blorbos i will always love u#ask tag ā©
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*puts on my Professor glasses* Macky really knows EXACTLY how to talk to Wukong, let's dissect it! M: Looks like things are going smoothly. W: I say, you've been here the whole time, haven't you? M: FFM is your home, but it's also mine. W: Did you find anything? M: Still nothing, however. Now the Jade Emperor is no longer present. The Celestial Realm already gives me an unsettling feeling. M: Wukong...that kid. W: I understand. M: You have to go and talk to him. W: I know! But...he still isn't ready. M: I see. You're the one who isn't ready, yet. How did you even become a teacher! M: He has to be. We all have to be realistic. W: He's just a kid. We can't let him... M: Who says he's just a kid! Why is it him? When you chose him, did you know? W: I didn't know, I really didn't know! I just followed...a feeling. M: Are you not the least bit worried?! This child has all of your special powers, and he always runs into trouble. Have you never questioned this before? Not a single person knows where he came from. Is it not strange?! M: We still have no clue as to whoever let out Azure Lion. All your old foes returned in one swoop. Are you not even a little- W: Then what about you? You also suddenly came back. M: Argh- M: I say, someone must be manipulating us behind our backs. Especially Xiaotian. But they still haven't succeeded. W: Then tell me. What about you? M: Tell me do you want my help or not?! / W: Not long ago you were still against me! / M: I see, you're just a- / W: ...after I assume you'll teach me how to train my own disciples? ~ Xiaotian Interupts ~ M: Look. That kid has made you his idol. You're his one true hero, but you... W: But I what? M: He has to understand, he doesn't need to carry these burdens. You have to do better. You can really tell whose the chatty one in this relationship XD Wukong might be a lil annoyed, but he's tolerant. And Macky is a little playful turd as always. Where Wukong gets gloomy and concerned, Mac swaps between teasing and serious in a blink. Then things get a lot more strained and tense, but unlike their previous fights, it never escalates into violence. Never a growl, never a raised fist. They're right at the edge, and they drop it. I'm very much interested in the psychology of arguments and when it comes to people latching onto (1) thing a person says and relating it slightly off topic to avoid talking about that other thing, like Wukong is doing here. It's so cool seeing how physical they are in trying to visibly control their emotions around each other, and how they keep trying to hold themselves back from tearing in further, always pausing and halting, and switching to another thing. They're TRYING. Ugh. I think Mac was trying to give a comforting smile at the end, but it's kinda warped by the whole ~ everything else. ~ Anyhow, I like how this starts with Wukong establishing, or rather cementing to Macaque that he believes MK is a kid. And while Macaque argues against that, he did also say before that Wukong should talk to him. And they have their squabble, with Mac pushing Wukong's buttons to get him to say something, BUT the fact this gets resolved with he needs to understand he doesn't need to carry these burdens. YOU HAVE TO DO BETTER. Like of all things Mac could have chosen. He's playing right into what Wukong himself believes, that will overwrite the "MK isn't ready" thing. Because let's face it. Mac is right when he says Wukong also isn't ready for that talk yet. He's so down throughout all this, Wukong probably feels himself that he needs to be better. AND by appealing to the fact MK is a kid, without explicitly stating that, just a statement that cannot be denied, BUT is a subject that undoubtedly, even Wukong cannot avoid. Because he wants better for MK. For him to not walk down the same path as him. Macaque has basically nudged Wukong into having that talk he wanted with MK by reframing it differently from what Wukong wasn't ready for. Thoughts? Critique?
*squishes you* anonā¦anon, youāre telling me..that this was the actual dialogue between SWK and Macky in 5x01. that what i just read is the translated version of the Mandarin dub. correct?
ok ok cool. iām cool. gucci. feeling fantastic lemme just
WHAT THE FUCK LMK
ok so i ranted in the tags but realized i forgot to say more things (also i was worried iād exceed the tag limit bc that is a real thing what do you know!)
so, anon, you said Macky knows how to talk to Wukong and yeah agreed but for me itās for of the sense of āMacky knows how to get his words under Wukongās skinā
he knows how to let his words sink in and fester in Wukongās mind, making him reconsider things or another to help speed up certain decisions or choices Wukong is hesitating on. and aināt it fascinating how despite how long itās been since either character have talked or interacted with each other, they still know the ins and outs of their behavior and thoughts.
Macky knows Wukong needs to talk to MK but is holding back. Macky after one answer from Wukong realizes that itās Wukong who isnāt ready for that conversation and switches tactics to try and breach that mental block
Wukong, in a need to avoid the conversation, brings up the questions surrounding Mackyās reason for even being alive again because that is information neither have talked about and oh hey! Macky is avoiding that conversation too! and itās an important one to have so he pushes for it, but Macky knows itās being pushed to avoid their original discussion and is annoyed bc āclassic Wukong, never wanting to delve too deep into topics where heāll need to be vulnerable forā (especially when said vulnerability is with his newly re-allied ex friend Macaroni himself)
god i love them
#to lmk: SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHAKING YOU AND SHA-#my thoughts are under the cut <- this is a lie. all my thoughts are in the tags#i wrote this on the assumption i would give myself a break to breathe. i gave myself 5 seconds#asks#lmk#lmk s5#lmk season 5#lmk spoilers#lmk s5 spoilers#lmk season 5 spoilers#lmk sun wukong#lmk six eared macaque#lmk mk#sunburst duo#anon i had to read this. sit in shock. then reread it. then scream. then allow myself to pick apart this dialogue bc wtf#tbh i love that SWK truly does see MK as a kid and it makes sense#SWK is /old/ old#and while MK is an adult heās still a fairly young adult in his early twenties (maybe pushing to mid-20s by s5 WAIT THAT IS SO COMING OF AG#OF THEM LMK QHEN I GEG YOU)#and personally only Pigsy and swk are allowed to call MK kid#and isnāt it so interesting that there was a focus on both characters in ep1#these are MKās two adult figures he looks up to the most. one is his dad (now officially adopted i think) & one is his mentor/hero#i LOVE that Macky told swk point blank that MK /does/ idolize swk. bc while itās very obvious#iām pretty sure SWKās been ignoring the hero worship on purpose (it also doesnāt help with his need to talk to MK bc what if#this talk breaks MKās image of him and MK gets upset and tries to leave him andā) but Mackyās like ānuh uh dumbass!#i am not standing by and watching you dwindle your thumbs with information MK needs to knowā (this was something i wanted#Macky to call swk out on tho i imagined it happening midway in s5 but hey not complaining. bc Macky is the one who knows#Swk the best out of the cast besides MK. but MK is still blinded by his hero worship and also doesnāt want to face his demons rn like swk)#GAH!!! itās so juicy how this works :D and then they get jury summoned and suddenly swk has the circlet back on and MKās seconds from
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literally how i feel any time i read this line. absolutely NOT
i think he's a great mirror type character for the mc depending on how much you draw on the default ra-on and their characterization, but more specifically their feeling of inferiority to solomon (which i take for my mc loyal). both the mc and bael are stuck filling in for a role for a king that neither feels they're well equipped for or were even born to hold and the fact that bael's so used to taking the fall that he's automatically ready to do it for you too is just. man. orz
#cliffnotes/.txt#whb#bael whb#its so...augh he makes me so sad#ik itll probably take forever to get to avisos since the promised chapter 6 hasnt even released yet#but waiting so patiently to pick bael apart (not really patient (vibrating like a chihuahua))#bael and mc spiderman pointing meme#god and both being like an imperfect copy#just similar enough to pass off as a fraud but so very different at the same time#and bc of that they'll never be true replacements#though the mc isnt even supposed to be one its like#the moment of disappointment almost everyone has shown when they realize its not solomon#even if they change tunes and bounce back quickly its there#happy to meet you but still upset its not him#and the underlying expectation that it *should* be him at first#like how it should be beel in avisos. but its not#both get a good amount of reassurance and support from those around them tho i will say its nicd#esp after seeing how the rest of avisos' camp feels abt bael#they love him and trust in him so much even though he always feels like hes failing them just by not being the king#he does so much and still feels like itll never be enough#ok now im just rambling its time to be quiet before i write an essay in here
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I kinda hopped into the dc fandom by reading fics (I know I know lmao)
But as I've read more comics and looked into different characterization and analysis I now have a more developed idea as to how I view a lot of the characters and have preferences to how their written. I'm def the type to click out a fic if I find myself thinking 'he would not fucking say that'
Anyway this is just to say it's very funny to me when I go thru some of the fics I bookmarked at the begining of my interest and find myself going Uh Oh! I don't think I can read this anymore!
#dc#dc comics#batverse#batfam#i do feel like i see too much beef and negativity abiut this kinda thing#i prefer to be a#i curate my own internet space#type of guy#but also i get it when your looking for fan content and so much of it is like š#an interpretation you hate#anyway this is probs obvious but mostly about the robins#like tim is probs one of my fave robins#but people go too hard on the whump for my personal taste#esp when it feels a bit of a disservice to the other characters#give me nuance i love nuance!#of course- fanfic is free and it is also free to not read it so to be clear o dont actually give a shit what people write#be free#go write that ooc chat fic life is short do whats fun#thinkin these thoughts at a party where i only know my dad and my dads friend LOL#wait i have more thoughts- ALSO#it really is funny to me#to be like. wow. i loved this fic#i thought it was SO GOOD#And to be holding that thought and perspective in my head#while also being like. ooph.#picking apart all the problems i have with it now#and like how. maybe id still like it if i just pretend they're ocs?#i can sometimes do that- but not always because i often go to fic for a specific dynamic#and i get really frustrated when i gotta be like. who the fuck is this guy its not the one with their name in the tags#i can sometimes tho
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